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Re: [Wg-ipv6-guide] (ToC11) Database Registration



Hi Izumi and all,

I'm Ahmad Alkazimy from APJII.
I would like to add a comments on this.
I would refer to point a) about the registration.

Is it possible to also put the registration of IP Address (minimum/a 48) must be done first before they can register for Reverse Delegation. This is to ensure the registration & utilisation of IP Address that are allocated to them.

BTW, on the IPv6, what is the minimum size for each Reverse Delegation (i.e in IPv4 is a /24) ?

Thank you,
Regards

Ahmad Alkazimy

At 18:18 19/12/03 +0900, you wrote:
Hi Leo and all,
[snip]
>
> But, it has also been argued that the phrase "registry database" should
> not include LIRs' databases (or their downstream customers' databases).
>
> If this is the case it appears that these guidelines are expecting an
> LIR to handle all abuse complaints on behalf of their customers but
> requires them to register their customers' assignments (as well as
> allocations) anyway. Is this consistent?
>
> If this is the case I think that this document (or another document)
> should give a (set of) reason(s) for requiring registration of
> assignments in a public whois database.
>
> I realise that some people might feel that doing so is stating the
> obvious. That should not necessarily be seen as a bad thing. By doing so
> and writing down the obvious we ensure that we know why a decision was
> made in a particular way when the decision is reviewed in the future.
I think I couldn't explain my position very well, so let me explain again.

<Assignments>
 - all assignments must be registered in RIR/NIR database
 - registrations are required for assignments through downstream ISPs
   as well

<Allocations to downstream ISPs>
 It is ambiguous in the policy document, and these are the
 possibilities in implementation:

 a) All allocations to downstream ISPs must be registered in RIR/NIR
    database
     e.g) If a /40 allocation is made to a downtream ISP, this will be
          registered in the database

    Pros: Appropriate contact point(dowstream ISP) available on whois
          database even when no assignments are made under that range
    Cons: It will not be considered in calculating utilization, so no
          strong motivation
          It is rare case where allocations are made to downstream
          ISPs, but no assignments are made/when registered
          assignments do not have updated information

 b) Allocations to downstream ISPs should not be registered in RIR/NIR
    database
     e.g) Even if a /40 allocation is made to a downtream ISP, it will
          not be registered in the database

    Pros: Reduces extra work for LIRs to register downstream allocations

    Cons: No appropriate point of contact for sub-allocated range when
          allocations are made to downstream ISP, but no assignments
          are registered

 c) It is upto LIRs to register allocations for downtream ISPs in the
    RIR/NIR database
    e.g) If a /40 allocation is made to a downtream ISP, it is upto an
         LIR whether to register this sub-allocated range

    Pros: Allows flexibility. LIRs do not need to register
          sub-allocations if they agree to be an abuse contact on
          behalf of its downtream ISPs

    Cons: Inconsistency in database registration

I hope this clarifies my intention.

Personally, I think option a) is most desirable, but since each
options has its pros and cons, I am interested to know the comments
from the others too. What do you all think?


Izumi
JPNIC

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