Hi Leo and all,
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>
> But, it has also been argued that the phrase "registry database" should
> not include LIRs' databases (or their downstream customers' databases).
>
> If this is the case it appears that these guidelines are expecting an
> LIR to handle all abuse complaints on behalf of their customers but
> requires them to register their customers' assignments (as well as
> allocations) anyway. Is this consistent?
>
> If this is the case I think that this document (or another document)
> should give a (set of) reason(s) for requiring registration of
> assignments in a public whois database.
>
> I realise that some people might feel that doing so is stating the
> obvious. That should not necessarily be seen as a bad thing. By doing so
> and writing down the obvious we ensure that we know why a decision was
> made in a particular way when the decision is reviewed in the future.
I think I couldn't explain my position very well, so let me explain again.
<Assignments>
- all assignments must be registered in RIR/NIR database
- registrations are required for assignments through downstream ISPs
as well
<Allocations to downstream ISPs>
It is ambiguous in the policy document, and these are the
possibilities in implementation:
a) All allocations to downstream ISPs must be registered in RIR/NIR
database
e.g) If a /40 allocation is made to a downtream ISP, this will be
registered in the database
Pros: Appropriate contact point(dowstream ISP) available on whois
database even when no assignments are made under that range
Cons: It will not be considered in calculating utilization, so no
strong motivation
It is rare case where allocations are made to downstream
ISPs, but no assignments are made/when registered
assignments do not have updated information
b) Allocations to downstream ISPs should not be registered in RIR/NIR
database
e.g) Even if a /40 allocation is made to a downtream ISP, it will
not be registered in the database
Pros: Reduces extra work for LIRs to register downstream allocations
Cons: No appropriate point of contact for sub-allocated range when
allocations are made to downstream ISP, but no assignments
are registered
c) It is upto LIRs to register allocations for downtream ISPs in the
RIR/NIR database
e.g) If a /40 allocation is made to a downtream ISP, it is upto an
LIR whether to register this sub-allocated range
Pros: Allows flexibility. LIRs do not need to register
sub-allocations if they agree to be an abuse contact on
behalf of its downtream ISPs
Cons: Inconsistency in database registration
I hope this clarifies my intention.
Personally, I think option a) is most desirable, but since each
options has its pros and cons, I am interested to know the comments
from the others too. What do you all think?
Izumi
JPNIC
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