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Re: [WG-BB] Study Report: CATV assignment guidline



Maemura-san,

Thank you for your contribution!

At 13:34 02/02/04, MAEMURA Akinori wrote:
>Colleages,
>
>WG-BB report was presented in the last Policy SIG in Taiwan.
>We JPNIC IPwg reported it in JPNIC Open Policy Meeting but
>there some SIers and CATV operators presented their opinion
>around default bootstrap assignment size.
>
>JPNIC IPwg had a meeting with concerned people and studied
>this issue.  The Following is the study report.
>
>As I asked Arano-san with a hat of chair of Policy SIG, I'd
>like to present something based on this discussion, after 
>discussing in this wg-bb.

Generally, it is OK. However, it should depend on discussion 
which will happen in this ML.

>Summary:
>------------------------------------------------------------
>   a)    Default assignment size should be considered upon
>                 "number of downstream port" and 
>                 "capacity specification" by the hardware,
>         instead of simply number of CMTS.

Could you give us more concrete conditions and 
number (/24, /23 or whatever)?

>   b)    In case of one 30Mbps type cable, /24 will typically
>         last three months.  Considering it can connect 2,000
>         users for example, it is never harmful if default 
>         size for this is /23 which lasts six months.
>------------------------------------------------------------

Do you mean one 30Mbps type cable is automatically given /23? 
I can't  see any condition about "number of downstream ports"....

Regards,
Takashi Arano

>Discussions:
>
>  1)     CMTS itself has various port density and capacity.
>         some can connect multiple cables and there are two
>         types of specifications which allow 10Mbps and 30Mbps.
>         The difference of the capacity will be clearly 
>         distinguished by product name.
>
>
>  2)     some CMTS has a configuration with different numbers
>         of upstream/downstream ports.  This is because down-
>         stream cable can be divided into multiple with no
>         significant signal loss but cable aggregation at up-
>         stream cable will increase noise level so such a CMTS
>         is designed to connect upsteam cables with no cable
>         aggregators.
>
>         Here the number of downsteam cables is the most 
>         appropriate index for deciding default assignment 
>         size if capacity specification is taken account into.
>
>
>  3)     Maximum number of customers for a cable is suggested
>         for each hardware for example 2,000 but the practical
>         number will vary according to the design policy of
>         each operator.
>
>
>  4)     The proposed default assignment size that is a /24 
>         for one CMTS is meets design condition of
>           a)    30Mbps type CMTS connecting one downstream
>           b)    Multiplexing late 1000%
>           c)    1Mbps throughput per user
>
>
>  5)     Statistics of Cable Internet in Japan says average
>         distributed capacity for one Cable Internet user is
>         5Kbps to 12Kbps.  It corresponds ten times as many 
>         customers as scenario in 4) while it is just an 
>         avarage and it depends on service level design of 
>         each operator.
>
>
>  6)     Customer demand in the bootstrap phase of CATV 
>         depends on its circumstances like existing xDSL 
>         services in the area, IP awareness or someting like 
>         these.  But /24 is likely to be a size that it lasts
>         three months in bootstrap in a typical case.
>
>
>  7)     In case of cisco hardware,  multiple secondary 
>         addresses can be assigned to single cable interface
>         so that Operator can easily add another assignment
>         after it is implemented, however some hardwares do
>         not allow this and single subnet must be assigned
>         there.
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>Regards,
>Akinori
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