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Re: [Wg-apnic-fees] Compare RIRs
Paul ,Randy and all:
Thanks Paul for giving us a summary on the problem.
Since I am new in the business, please bear with me if my question is in
appropriate.
>From my point of view, I think that NIR is almost unique to APNIC. It can be
a pain in the neck, but it might also be possible to be a unique resource to
APNIC.
I would like to echo with Randy's question, is a change necessary?
I can see why Paul worried about the financial sitiation of APNIC. Is it
possible to give us a simple brief of the spending side?
What I am looking for is that whether it is possible for APNIC to cooperate
with NIRs in some of the work so that the financial burden can be released.
Ming-Cheng Liang
TWNIC
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:47:29 +1000, Paul Wilson wrote
> Randy and all,
>
> I will summarise some of the points I presented during the members
> meeting in Taiwan. For reference, the presentation file and
> discussion documents are online at:
>
> http://www.apnic.net/meetings/22/program/amm.html (See 2pm session)
>
> Firstly, APNIC fee levels have remained static since 1996, with no
> change to the small, medium and large levels (see slide 3). During
> that time, the effects of inflation and foreign exchange
> (specifically the low value of the US dollar in recent years) have
> reduced our real income, while providing a real reduction in fees
> for members.
>
> For the past 4 years, APNIC has budgeted for a balanced result with
> no surplus. During 2006 we have for the first time planned a small
> budget deficit, which has been expected by the APNIC Executive
> Council for some time (slide 4).
>
> During recent years, APNIC services have been developed extensively.
> Fortunately some of these developments have improved efficiency of
> APNIC operations, allowing other developments and improvements to be
> made within the available revenues. Some of these are listed on
> slide 6.
>
> My argument here is that if we are to continue to improve and extend
> services, then a budget deficit is likely to result in future as
> well. For this reason I have proposed an overall increase in
> expected APNIC fees of around 15%, in order to provide a moderate
> surplus and more flexibility to develop services as needed in future.
>
> As discussed in the meeting, the parameters of the structure can be
> adjusted to produce a smaller or larger surplus, or none at all. I
> agreed at the meeting to post a variation of the structure which
> produces no net surplus, and I will do that in the coming weeks.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul.
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Paul Wilson email: pwilson@apnic.net
> Director General, APNIC sip: apnic@voip.apnic.net
> http://www.apnic.net phone: +61 7 3858 3100
>
> --On Monday, 25 September 2006 4:31 PM -1000 Randy Bush
> <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>
> > perhaps what would be helpful at this point would be for apnic staff to
> > refresh us on
> > o why change is needed
> > o proposal(s) as compared to current
> > o how proposal(s) achieve goals
> >
> > this may give us some focus.
> >
> > yes, we can go to paul's kaohsiung presentation. but i hope a very
> > terse and concise version may help us be terse and concise, yet move
> > forward.
> >
> > randy
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