Re: [sig-policy] Final call for comments prop-020-v001 Application of the HD ratio to IPv4

[Philip Smith <pfs@cisco.com>]

The proposal should be abandoned.

- LIRs with smaller address space requirements are penalised in favour
of LIRs with higher address space requirements.

- Are we now saying that prudent IPv4 address space management is less
of a concern for the IPv4 Internet?

- Or is this a plan to deplete the IPv4 address pool as fast as possible
so that everyone is forced over to IPv6 whether they are ready or not? ;-)

Looking at Geoff's numbers which arrived as I started writing this, the
current scheme has an LIR requiring to demonstrate the use of around 50k
addresses in a /16. An HD ratio of 0.96 has that same LIR only needing
to demonstrate the use of around 40k hosts - 20% reduction! Yet an LIR
requiring a /24 sees no change. So we want to worry more about the
distribution of tiny amounts of address space versus huge chunks? Seems
upside down to me.

philip
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Save Vocea said the following on 17/3/06 11:13:
> Dear colleagues
> 
> APNIC welcomes comments and suggestions on the following policy
> proposal:
> 
> ____________________
> 
> Status of [prop-020-v001] "Application of the HD ratio to IPv4"
> ____________________
> 
> At the APNIC 21 Policy SIG, there was discussion of the status of
> [prop-020-v001] "Application of the HD ratio to IPv4". Below is a
> summary of the proposal activity to date:
> 
> 
> - 4 August        Posted to Policy SIG mailing list on 4 August 2004.
> 
> - August 2004     Presented at APNIC 18. No decision
>                   reached, however an LIR survey was requested to
>                   better understand the issues faced by LIRs in trying
>                   to achieve 80 percent utilisation.
> 
> - February 2005   Presentation at APNIC 19 on development of the LIR
>                   survey.
> 
> - September 2005  Informational update of LIR survey results at APNIC
>                   20. Discussion continued in Policy SIG mailing list.
> 
> - March 2006      Discussion about the proposal's status at APNIC 21.
>                   The proposal has been abandoned in ARIN and LACNIC
>                   regions and is in final call in the RIPE region.
>                   As there has not been no decision on this proposal
>                   to date in the APNIC region, it was decided to
>                   return the proposal to the Policy SIG mailing list
>                   for four-week discussion before deciding the
>                   future of the proposal.
> 
> 
> This proposal is now being submitted to the Policy SIG mailing list
> for a four-week discussion period. At the end of that period, based
> on the comments received, the Chair of the Policy SIG will decide
> whether the proposal should be abandoned or moved forward.
> 
> *   Send all comments and questions to:   <sig-policy@apnic.net>
> *   Deadline for comments:                14 April 2006
> 
> 
> ____________________
> 
> Proposal details
> ____________________
> 
> [prop-020-v001] is a proposal to use the HD ratio for measurement of
> IPv4 utilisation, for the purpose of determining when a given block of
> address space should be considered as fully utilised.
> 
> 
> ____________________
> 
> References
> ____________________
> 
> Proposal details including full text of proposal, presentations, links
> to relevant meeting minutes, and links to mailing list discussions are
> available at:
> 
>     http://www.apnic.net/docs/policy/proposals/prop-020-v001.html
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> Save
> -- 
> Savenaca Vocea,  Policy Development Manager,   <save@apnic.net>
> Asia Pacific Network Information Centre
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