Re: [sig-policy] revised: prop-060

[MAEMURA Akinori <maem@nic.ad.jp>]

Alastair,

Our current NIR criteria allow only a single NIR to be 
established in an economy/a country.  See section 2.1 of it.

http://www.apnic.net/policy/nir-criteria.html

I would agree that further clarification is needed.


Thanks!

Akinori, an NIR manager, could be for the country ANIME ;-)


In message <48B5CE9F.801@sneep.net>
   "Re: [sig-policy] revised: prop-060"
   "Alastair Johnson <aj@sneep.net>" wrote:

| I agree with Philip's comments.  The proposal as it stands is very 
| unclear in the problem that it is trying to solve.
| 
| I'm also not comfortable with using APNIC policies as a tool to control 
| Governments in countries.  This seems inappropriate and leading down a 
| particularly slippery path.
| 
| The issue raised by Leo around whether it could lead to multiple NIRs 
| being established in a single economy is also one that needs to be 
| addressed.
| 
| I don't have much experience in the NIR arena, but as it stands I don't 
| support this policy - if the problem statement can be made clearer it 
| would be helpful in deciding whether to support in the future.
| 
| aj
| 
| Philip Smith wrote:
| > Some comments:
| > 
| > - there is no problem statement in Section 2 which purports to declare
| > what the problem is.
| > 
| > - Section 4, item 2. "Members" is mentioned without context. NIR
| > members? APNIC members? Other members, and if so what of?
| > 
| > - Section 4, item 3. I can't see how APNIC or anyone else can dictate to
| > any sovereign Government that it will have a minor role in an NIR. If an
| > NIR truly represents the economy it is located in, surely all interested
| > parties in that economy will establish exactly what the representation
| > should be?
| > 
| > - Section 5. None of the advantages listed are obvious from reading the
| > text as it stands. I can see substantial disadvantages though.
| > 
| > - Section 6. "APNIC members undergo conditional allocations". Please
| > explain. No evidence provided in text. First mention of creation of NIR
| > covering communities in multiple countries - what is the rationale for this?
| > 
| > - Section 7 I believe is incomplete. This policy proposal has
| > substantial impact on the existing NIRs as it changes the fundamental
| > basis for their existence as it would be entirely feasible for another
| > organisation or group of organisations to establish themselves as an NIR
| > within the existing NIR's operational area. This would quite likely be
| > counter to the existing NIR's rules of association.
| > 
| > I believe this proposal needs substantial work to resolve the issues I
| > mentioned above. As it stands, it has significant impact on the entire
| > APNIC, NIR and LIR structure and relationship; I feel this needs to be
| > carefully considered and documented.
| 
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