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Re: [sig-nir] Re: VNNIC's Position about IPv6 Fee Abolishing Proposal



Dear all,

Firstly, let's be clear that the discount applies to fees for the allocation of IPv6 address space to existing IPv4 infrastructure. It does not apply to allocations of IPv6 space to new networks, nor to subsequent allocations of IPv6 space to networks that have already transitioned to IPv6. I hope that this is clear in all documentation related to this policy, including the revised fee structure that was recently published.

The rationale for this discount is that the allocation of IPv6 to existing IPv4 infrastructure is intended to be a lightweight process, relying on the fact that the network infrastructure has already been assessed and IPv4 address space allocated. In other words the "work" has been done already in the previous IPv4 application, and it is not justified to charge the same fees for an allocation of (IPv6) addresses to that same infrastructure.

The APNIC EC did initially discuss a 100% fee discount for these cases, but felt on consideration that since some administrative activities are involved in making these allocations, some fee payment is justified.

I hope that this explanation helps, but please let me know if any other issues are not clear.

Best regards, and I look forward to seeing you all in Hanoi,

Paul.

--On Wednesday, 20 July 2005 2:13 PM +0900 Izumi Okutani <izumi@nic.ad.jp> wrote:

Thanks to NIRs for expressing your comments. I think we should keep this
proposal("prop-028-v001:Abolishing IPv6 per address fee for NIRs")
active as most NIRs wish to continue discussions on this issue.

Now that APNIC has implemented the 90% discount on the per address fee,
I believe the situation has changed since it was initially proposed.
Just to start off the discussions, I would like to ask some questions to
both NIRs and APNIC.

It seems that 90% is almost as good as free, so would someone from the
NIRs share with us why you wish the per address fee to be totally
abolished instead of the discount?

I'd also like to ask the reverse question to APNIC. Was there any reason
why APNIC has made the decision to provide the discount instead of
totally abolishing the fee as proposed by the NIRs? It would also be
helpful if APNIC could explain the logic behind the fee change so that
we can compare it with what has been proposed by the NIRs.

Any other imputs from non-NIRs/APNIC are also very welcome. Any thoughts
on the APNIC fee change or NIR proposal?


Izumi

Phan Thi Nhung wrote:
Dear Billy,
I'm sorry for the delay answer. After talking within VNNIC Hostmaster
Team, we agree to keep this proposal active and discuss at the NIR SIG
at the APNIC 20. See you all in Ha Noi.
Regards.
Nhung.

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