Re: [apnic-talk] IP address assignment to third party

["Jim Fleming" <JimFleming@ameritech.net>]

32-bit allocations can come from many **brokers** and companies.
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
009/8           IBM                                     Aug 92
012/8           AT&T Bell Laboratories                  Jun 95
015/8           Hewlett-Packard Company                 Jul 94
017/8           Apple Computer Inc.                     Jul 92
024/8           ARIN - Cable Block                      May 01
035/8           MERIT Computer Network                  Apr 94
038/8           Performance Systems International       Sep 94
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "paku" <paku123456@yahoo.com>
To: "Anne Lord" <anne@apnic.net>
Cc: <apnic-talk@apnic.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 1:09 AM
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] IP address assignment to third party


> Hi Anne,
> 
> I understand the policy from this explaination.
> 
> Is it complasory to get IPs(allocated portable)from
> APNIC only in Asia pecific?
> Or can I get it from ARIN,LACNIC,....etc?
> 
> Thanks
> paku
> 
> 
>  --- Anne Lord <anne@apnic.net> wrote: > 
> > hi Paku,
> > 
> > > Thanks Anne,
> > > But now I am confused more. Cause I make whois
> > query
> > > on two three inetnum,,, and all are Allocated
> > Portable
> > > assignment.Dose that mean they can assign it to
> > anyone
> > 
> > Maybe it is helpful if I explain the difference
> > between 
> > allocation and assignment. 
> > 
> > An allocation is a range of addresses that can be
> > further
> > subdivided. It is given to both customers to address
> > their
> > networks and used to address equipment in your own
> > network. 
> > 
> > An assignment is a range of addresses actually *in
> > use* on a
> > specific network. Assignments must only be made for
> > specific, 
> > documented purposes and may not be sub-assigned.
> >  
> > There is no such thing as an 'Allocated Portable
> > assignment' as
> > mentioned above.  There are both assignments and
> > allocations as
> > Database entries in the whois database - but they
> > are separate
> > entities.
> > 
> > Most allocations will be marked 'Allocated
> > Portable'. That is,
> > the custodian has a range of addresses that they can
> > use to
> > *assign* to their customers and to themselves for
> > their network infrastructure.
> > Those customers *must* have connectivity through the
> > ISP that has 
> > the range of addresses (allocation).  The idea is
> > that the ISP 
> > aggregates the allocated range into a single prefix
> > announcement, usually 
> > a /20 (which is the minimum allocation size). The
> > 'portable' tag only applies 
> > to the /20 range as a whole. It means the custodian
> > of the range 
> > (say your company) can change upstream provider
> > without
> > renumbering. 
> >  
> > Any assignments customers receive will be marked in
> > the whois 
> > database as 'assigned non-portable'. this means that
> > they have
> > received assignments from your range (allocation) to
> > be used on an actual
> > network. They cannot leave you, choose another
> > provider, and take
> > the addresses with them. They are *not* portable.
> > You should enter
> > into agreements with your customers which specify
> > that they addresses
> > are not portable, should they cancel their service
> > with you.
> > 
> > This whole idea is in place to support the
> > hierarchical aggregation
> > of routing information. This is to date, the only
> > effective way to
> > make the Internet scale, and is critical. It is
> > known as CIDR (classless
> > inter-domain routing).
> > 
> > > other than their customers(assign,nonportable)???
> > 
> > > Suppose I am apnic member and get /20 Allocated
> > > Portable. Than can I assign some space outout
> > > it(/22)to my other organisations(my sisterconcern
> > > companies but not my customers. And using others
> > 
> > No - you should *definately* be assigning it to your
> > customers. You can
> > also assign it to your sister companies but only
> > *IF* they obtain 
> > Internet connectivity from you.
> > 
> > > internet serices) and its non-comercial.
> > 
> > Whether you are commerical or not has no bearing on
> > where the addresses
> > are assigned. The important thing to remember is
> > that addresses *must*
> > only be assigned to entities that are receiving
> > Internet connectivity 
> > from you.
> > 
> > Does that help? Please dont hesitate to contact me
> > or the helpdesk
> > if any of this is not clear.
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> > Anne
> >
> _____________________________________________________________________
> > Anne Lord, Manager, Policy Liaison                 
> > <anne@apnic.net>
> > Asia Pacific Network Information Centre       phone:
> > +61 7 3858 3100
> > http://www.apnic.net                            fax:
> > +61 7 3858 3199
> >
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> > 
> >  
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