Friday 14 July 2006 - Teleconference

Minutes

Start: 11:15 am (UTC+10)

Present:

Apologies:

Agenda:

  1. Agenda bashing
  2. Minutes from last meeting (12 May 2006)
  3. Financial report for May/June 2006
  4. ICANN/NRO status
  5. IGF update
  6. Approval of policy decision
  7. Proposal to host APNIC 24
  8. APNIC 23 security checklist
  9. AOB
  10. Next meeting

  1. Agenda bashing

    2. The following topic was added to the agenda:

    • Using VoIP for EC meetings

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  2. Minutes from last meeting (12 May 2006)

    • The minutes from the meeting on 12 May were approved.

      • Action ec-06-012: Secretariat to publish minutes from 12 May 2006.

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  3. Financial report for May/June 2006

    • Because there was no EC meeting in June, this meeting considered reports from May and June.
    • Revenues and expenses are still below the budget. The report for May shows a lot of unrealised losses due to the exchange rate fluctuation.
    • In May, there was net membership growth of 23. The first member from East Timor joined in May.
    • The June report is the semi-annual report. It shows a trend similar to previous years on aging accounts.
    • The financial status includes the first six months of 2006 compared to the same period in 2006. So far APNIC has spent about 10 percent more than this time last year. Revenues are also 10 percent higher than this period last year.
    • It was noted that membership fees are currently significantly below the projection. The year to date budget is a pro-rata figure. Revenue and expenses both remain below budget. It was suggested that this is not a significant cause for concern at this time of year.
    • There was a discussion of the general membership growth. It is currently quite steady and strong. Many of the new members are coming from Australia, India, and Bangladesh.
    • It was noted that a new cable connection to Bangladesh has resulted in a recent surge in new members from that economy.
    • APNIC now has 1,250 members.
    • The general levels of Secretariat activity are increasing. In May, there were more than 60 new membership applications.
    • The EC approved this financial report.

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  4. ICANN/NRO status

    • The Boards subgroup on the ICANN contract has been meeting to submit a draft to ICANN. There has not yet been a response from ICANN.
    • It is not expected that ICANN would accept this contract as it currently stands.
    • There are currently no proposals for a meeting with ICANN representatives.
    • There have been discussions about aspects of the current contract proposal and which parts might be the most negotiable.
    • The RIRs have proposed that in the event of ICANN failure, the IANA number function would pass to the NRO.
    • There was some discussion about who was authorised to speak on behalf of ICANN and how the negotiations should take place.
    • The NRO has responded to the NTIA call for comment into the ICANN process. This was circulated to the APNIC EC prior to submission.
    • There has been a comment from ISOC that it is better for ICANN not to reach a formal agreement with the root server operators, even though the DoC has considered agreements with RIRs and root server operators to be a goal for ICANN.
    • The IAB has disputed the DoC's legitimacy in including the IANA function in the ICANN contract. The IAB has stated that it reserves its right to remove the IANA function from the current arrangement.
    • There is a written agreement between IAB and ICANN relating to the IANA function. The US DoC has stated it considers that contract invalid. Others such as the RIPE Board have also noted their view that the DoC has no right to the IANA function.
    • The head of IANA currently reports directly to ICANN not to the IETF.

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  5. IGF update

    • There is no further IGF progress to report.

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  6. Approval of policy decision

    • There is one policy proposal to be considered here, [prop-032-v002] 4-byte AS number policy proposal.
    • This proposal reached consensus at APNIC 21 without any objections.
    • The EC ratified that the process was correctly followed and that consensus had been properly achieved.
    • The EC formally endorsed this proposal.

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  7. Proposal to host APNIC 24

    • One proposal to host APNIC 24 has been received. The proposal is to host APNIC-24 in conjunction with SANOG, in New Delhi during August 2008.
    • It was noted that as usual, there is a need to clarify aspects of the proposal with ISPAI. The Secretariat will investigate and prepare a detailed summary to be discussed at the next EC meeting.
    • It was noted there has been a recent terrorist incident in India, which would raise the same types of concerns that have been discussed in relation to the Bali meeting.
    • It was noted that the group that made this proposal is not the same group that proposed to host the cancelled Bangalore meeting.

      Action ec-06-013: Secretariat to prepare a detailed summary of the proposal to host APNIC 24, to be discussed at the next EC meeting. The summary will include issues of security.

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  8. APNIC 23 security checklist

    • A checklist was circulated of things to inspect and clarify at the site of the next APRICOT meeting.
    • It was noted that an external security consultant had informally approved this checklist.
    • The site visit in Bali will take place next week.
    • The EC approved of the use of the checklist.

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  9. AOB

    10. Using VoIP for EC meetings

    • It has been suggested to use VoIP services for future EC meetings.
    • There were some concerns expressed about echo cancellation and other problems.
    • It was suggested to run a test of the service one week before the next EC meeting.
    • It was noted that calling out from APNIC to normal phones will remain expensive. The saving will come from EC members installing a SIP client and dialing in themselves.

    Action ec-06-014: Secretariat to organise a trial VoIP EC teleconference.

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  10. Next meeting

    • To be announced.

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Meeting closed 12:05 pm (UTC+10)

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